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Nuker
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Posted - 11/08/2005 :  13:19:42  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Do I understand correctly that I can use a 45-70 during primative weapon season and not use the ol black powder stuff???

If I don't understand correctly, can someone give me some insight? Thanks in advance.

RT8
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Posted - 11/08/2005 :  13:24:13  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
http://www.mdwfp.com/forums/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=10913

First, read that.

IF you a correct, legal weapon to start with, YES, you can use over-the-counter, store-bought 45-70 ammo. It does NOT have to use blackpowder. Smokeless powder IS legal.

No, you can't use your T/C Encore nor your Ruger #1 or #3.

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sand_manms
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Posted - 11/08/2005 :  13:25:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Read the sticky about approved centerfire weapons allowed during primitive weapon season.

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Dersu
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Posted - 11/08/2005 :  13:27:29  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Nuker

Do I understand correctly that I can use a 45-70 during primative weapon season and not use the ol black powder stuff???




Yes, printed booklet has an error and limits it to blackpowder, as I recall. website is correct.

FROM:
http://www.mdwfp.com/Level2/Wildlife/hunting_regs.asp
PRIMITIVE WEAPONS
"Primitive firearms" for the purpose of hunting deer, are defined as single or double barreled muzzle-loading rifles of at least .38 caliber; single shot, breech loading, cartridge rifles (.38 caliber or larger) of a kind and type manufactured prior to 1900, and replicas, reproductions or reintroductions of those type rifles; and single or double-barreled muzzle-loading, shotguns with single ball or slug. All muzzle-loading Primitive Firearms must use black powder or a black powder substitute with either percussion caps or #209 shotgun primers or flintlock ignition. Breech loading single shot rifles must have exposed hammers and use metallic cartridges. Cartridges may be loaded either with black powder or modern smokeless powder. Scopes of any magnification are allowed on primitive weapons. Sidearms are not allowed during primitive weapon season

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sand_manms
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Posted - 11/08/2005 :  13:34:56  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
This an approved list that we have for the new public notice on the breech loading single shot rifles, kind or type manufactured before 1900 with an exposed hammer, .38 cal or larger.

This list is by no means exclusive. This is just a list comprised of commonly available rifles.

SINGLE SHOT BREECHLOADING RIFLES WHICH ARE PRIMATIVE WEAPONS:

Sharps rifles or replicas
Remington Rollingblock rifles or replicas
Ballard rifles
Maynard rifles or replicas
Burnside carbines
Frank Wesson rifles
Remington Hepburn rifles
M1873-1888 Springfield (trapdoor) Rifles and Carbines and replicas
Snider (British) rifles or replicas
Wesson & Harrington 1871 Rifles
New England Firearms or Harrington & Richardson Handi Rifles
Winchester M1885 Hi Wall or Lo Wall rifles or replicas (Also Browning B78 or 1885)

SINGLE SHOT BREECHLOADING RIFLES WHICH ARE NOT PRIMATIVE WEAPONS!!!!

Ruger Number 1 and Number 3 (no exposed hammer)
Thompson Center Contender or Encore Carbines (designed after 1900)
Mossberg SSi Single Shot Rifle (no exposed hammer and designed after 1900)


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PMAN
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Posted - 11/08/2005 :  16:37:45  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a 50 cal Rossie muzzle loader crack barrel that uses 209 primer and powder pellets. It was legal last year. Is it still legal?

It is better to be approximately right than precisely wrong.
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tombstone
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Posted - 11/08/2005 :  16:43:16  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by PMAN

I have a 50 cal Rossie muzzle loader crack barrel that uses 209 primer and powder pellets. It was legal last year. Is it still legal?

It is better to be approximately right than precisely wrong.


yes
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PMAN
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Posted - 11/09/2005 :  08:15:18  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Thanks tombstone

It is better to be approximately right than precisely wrong.
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